Sunday, May 24, 2009

Mannheim

Val and I took a quick jaunt over to Mannheim on Saturday. Yowza! That was quite a drive! We left Garmisch-Partenkirchen at 0900 and arrived in Brühl at about 1400. Then we spent about eight hours with our friends, Ulrike and Christian, at their home and touring the city a bit. It was so great to see them again and to experience their kind and generous hospitality. And it was also very nice to be able to see my old German "home" in Mannheim. We stopped by Turley Barracks, where I used to work, and saw that it is essentially abandoned, boarded up, and awaiting disposition - probably a decision to be made by the German government and American authorities. I'll post some pics of what we saw yesterday.

We left Mannheim at 2200 and drove a little over four hours to get back to Garmisch-Partenkirchen at a little after 0200. Made for a long, but very enjoyable day. Thanks so very much to Christian and Ulrike!

Here are some of the pictures. First of all, the four of us in Mannheim:

And our hosts, Christian and Ulrike, in their kitchen:

The famous "Wasserturm" (water tower) of Mannheim:

"Der Rosengarten" (kind of a concert hall) in Mannheim:

"Das Mannheimer Schloss" (the Mannheim castle):

And, finally, my old soldierin' home, Turley Barracks:

93 comments:

  1. Scott,
    Enjoyed your photo's of Mannheim and also sad that Turley Barracks is closed. I was stationed there in 1962-63 as an MP. We vactioned in Europe in 1994 and we stopped in Mannheim and I stopped at Turley. Well it did bring back memories of the good times I had there. I am still in contact with about seven of the guys I served with. Only one transportation company was stationed there
    then and our old barracks were being renovated for the University of Maryland. I have since learned that they are now at Sullivan Barracks.

    Thanks again

    OF THE TROOPS AND FOR THE TROOPS

    Lou Roudabush
    St. Michaels,MD

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  2. I WAS STATIONED THERE FROM 1967 TO 1970 595 TRANSPORTATION. JIM DEVORE HAD LOT OF GOOD TIMES

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    1. I was there from 1962-1965 in same 595 TRANSPORTATION

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  3. PlumbCrazy , 590th Trans co ,
    Turley Barracks , 181 Trans Bn , Mannheim
    1974-1976 plumbroofing@msn.com

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  4. Was stationed at Turley with the 590th Trans. Co. from '75 to'78 with the guy above (Plumbcrazy). Just had an Army reunion in Vegas in July '09 with about 12 of us. Guys flew in from all over the U.S. It was great seeing the guys again. Many great stories were told. Would love to hear from anyone out there from our "era". slarjohnson@comcast.net. Steve "Leave" Johnson

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    1. steve...hey its steve elmore i was there from jan, 75 to aug, 78 3rd platoon 3rd squad (tracter trailors)in dec of 77 we all whent to garmish for a ski trip and the first day me an vandermi had casts on are legs, me tour the ligaments from my knee and vandermi broke his ankel then we both became permanent CQs....septginc@aol.com Steve (the sham king!)Elmore

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    2. Steve, Good to hear from you. Sorry for the late reply, I haven't been on this site for a while. My email address is taemagic412@gmail.com. Write me sometime and we can catch up. Had a 590th reunion a couple of years ago in Las Vegas. It was a blast. I'll send you some photo's. Steve

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    3. we were station there 1969 thru 1972 my son started elementary school at mannheim
      elementary. we live at 10-a Cloumbus St

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  5. Believe it or not, I was born at Turley Barracks in 1945 when they were known as Kaiser Wilhelm Kaserne. My parents were among the 200,000 Displaced Persons who eventually came to the US. We stayed at various barracks that housed war refugees in Ludwigsburg and Augsburg, befor emigrating to the U. S. in 1951.

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    1. Hello George, I don't know if you will see this as your post is 2 years old! If so, I would be grateful if you could contact me. I am working on the history of Turley Barracks for a big cultural event and am collecting pictures and stories. Yours is very unique and I would be glad to talk with you. Please contact me at goodbye_gi@web.de. Thank you, Agnes

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  6. I was station turley. 1986.to 1991. 41st trans. Said to see it closed lot of good memories

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    1. SFC Scott GeorgesonApril 25, 2012 at 1:44 AM

      I was with the 41st TC in 93 when they cesed the colors for the last time... Ended up with the 377th "heavy Truck" they moved to coleman Barracks.. Loved it there, and an sad to see Turley looking like that. I loved that we could walk down the strasse and get a beer in an outside garden...MISS THE DAYS!!

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    2. I was there in 1975-76, lost of fun....

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    3. I was at Turley 1986-87 51st TC email me, etjtwb4ever@yahoo.com
      , I would like to locate some old buddies, maybe u can help. Thanks

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  7. I was stationed at Turley Barracks Jan to Oct 1970. I was the Mail Clerk for the 377th Trans Co. I can't believe that it has been 40 years. A lot of good memories and met a lot of nice people. I got out of the Army when I left there. Art Simon, Retired Mailman, Metro Detroit, MI

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    1. roland w williams jrAugust 31, 2014 at 1:13 PM

      i was station at turley barracks and in 377th trans co.i was there 1969-1972. there were alot of nice people. i have been ret since 1987and now live in atlanta ga.

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  8. i was there from 1980 to 1983 THE BEST YEARS OF MY LIFE!

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    1. What unit? Same years there as me

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  9. It is sad to hear that Turley is closed now. I was stationed there from 1982 to 1983. Part of the 41st trans. I will always look back on that time as a wonderful experience.

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  10. heard it was haunted... any truth to that mates?

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  11. was stationed at turley from 1966-1968 in the 51st trans co. was a nice post to be assigned.had alot of good times their also had some good friends in the 598th trans.thanks

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  12. Dear Scott, so where are you leaving now?? Regards, D.

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  13. PlumbCrazy 74-76 590th Trans turley BksNovember 13, 2010 at 3:45 PM

    I am PlumbCrazy and I was there from 74-76
    590th Trans co Mannheim Apo 09166

    I didn't think army trucks could take that much abuse. I guess I was wrong. P.S. an army truck engine will run backwards with 10 sppeds in reverse.

    plumbroofing@msn.com

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    1. Hi Plumbcrazy! It appears you were there in the 590th same time as me. Here is my email bgob2@aol.com Sgt Gruss

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    2. Hi guys - I was in the 41st - 76 thru 78 64Charlie - anyone there during that time frame

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    3. Yes, I was right next door, 51st - 74 - 77
      dl.murphyinc@verizon.net

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  14. I was there from 72 74 ...Was in 51st then HHD ...I was the driver for HHD ... If anyone was there then please contact me atvrider500@yahoo.com

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  15. The Avenger 595.29...
    I was there from 1968 to 1970. There was no place like it on earth and I will never forget it. Set me up a flippie at the A Bar.

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  16. stationed at turley 64--66 595 dragon wagoners 10 ton 18 wheelers tank retrivers.remember the A bar well and the brats next door. any one else?

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    1. I was there from 62-65 same CO 595 dragon wagoners. my name is Charles Young From Indiana can you tell me your Name

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  17. I was there in 66 to 68 595th trans co. Had a lot of good times there. I remember our 1st sarg TOP. Great man.

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    1. Bob Nehez Dec 1966 til June 1968, parts clerk with Gradeless, Mr. Hart,Wallace, Gary Sommers, Wilkerson etc. Contact me kidmelvindale@yahoo.com

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  18. I just googled Turley barracks after discussing the ghost hauntings while I lived there. Your blogged popped up.
    Happy to see you writing about Turley Barracks and Mannheim, in general.
    I lived there in 2003-2005 and lived in the "dorms" at UMUC, before it closed. Turley Barracks closed shortly thereafter because the Germans wanted to keep it for historical purposes. Because it is one of the last standing WWII buildings in Mannheim.
    My parents still reside in Mannheim. Many great college memories there.

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  19. I was the Chaplain Assistant for the 181st trans bat from 1989-1992 with deployment to the Gulf War from Dec. '90 - Apr. 91

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    1. Hi My name is Jonathan and was stationed there from 92-94 and was wondering if u knew who the Chaplin was when u left in 94. Looking to track down a good friend. Email me at jon711505@gmail.com thanks

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  20. MY FATHER WAS POSTED AT TURLEY BARRACKS FROM 64-66. I LOVED HEARING HIS STORIES SO MUCH ABOUT THE DRIVING AND MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF BEER HE CONSUMED IN MANNHEIM. SPC. DENNIS M RYAN RA 166 78 660. I AM PROUD TO BE HIS SON AND PLAN ON CONTINUTING THE TRADITION OF SERVING THE ARMY BUT AS A COMBAT MEDIC.

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  21. OHHHH THE MEMORIES...THEY COME BACK NOW...WAS THERE FROM 1968-END OF 1969 WHEN LEVIED...41ST TRANS Co.
    Knew some great guys Mac...you out there:) Paul Proczek? Got to go visit my daughter in Ettlingen with a quick run through Frankfurt and Mannheim...Little hole in the heart....Thank you all for serving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  22. Thanks to all the service members for their duty in Germany .. sad to see you go ... My ex was sationed first in Spinelli then in turley as part of 40th Trans ...
    Sad to see all the froces go .. i really unwise decicion in my opinion to remove the US forces ...
    Greets Helly

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  23. I was assigned to 590th Apr 1976 - Mar 1978, drove number 17 for many, many miles. What a good memories!
    Jose A. RomeuSoto

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  24. i WAS THERE FROM 64-66. WAS ONE HELL OF A PARTY

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  25. Company clerk, 598th Trans Co, Dec 1970 - Mar 1972; sorry to see Turley is closed but heard about base closures (incl Turley) a couple of years ago, so, not surprised that Turley did not survive the cut. Like so many service folks it was where I finished growing up. A mix of fond memories and awful ones, but I would not have missed the trip, nor the people, nor the sights (like Heidelberg) for anything.

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  26. I was the trng NCO from Oct 74 to Dec 75 in the 590th. Sgt Gruss

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  27. anyone out there in that time frame from oct 74 to dec 75???

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    1. 72 to 75 at Turley Barracks

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    2. i was there 73 to 75 598th tc

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    3. I was there from 12/74 to 6/77 assigned to the motor pool as 63B mechanic.

      Glenn Richardson

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    4. I was there from 1979-1982. 51st trans and HHD

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  28. 73to75 598th trans ,FUN

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    1. I was there from 12/74 to 6/77 assigned to the motor pool as 63B mechanic.

      Glenn Richardson

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  29. I was there as an NBC NCO in the 41st and then the 590th from mar86 to dec88 ---Rick Savoie

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  30. 590th 3d Herd 80-83 then 40th (tanker yanker)85-88 dates are just a faint memory,
    stumblefoot@myway.com
    SP5-SSG Greg Barth

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    1. my cousie seve austun was in 590 in 81 to82.

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  31. james rutland 41 trans. lived on womens floor last room on right for a little while. me and a sgt from 51st trained all driver for VIP reforge 82, driver training at darmstock, for S.E.N.T.A.G. , german base at visthime near wurburg. looking for old friends, facebook floyd rutland in florida. my cousin was in 590 "steven austin 81=82

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  32. I was at Turley 41st transportation Co. from 1961 to 1962. I got married there we will be married 50 years September the 21st. I also have a lot of good memories from Turley

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    1. Congratulations on your 50th anniversary!

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  33. I was at Turley Barracks (8th Medical) from May-74 to Nov 75. Turley Barracks will always be in my heart.

    IRA J.


    LOVE YOU GUYS

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    1. I was at Turkey Barracks from 1972- 1974 with the 8th Med Bn as the S2 -S3 Commo. Clerk. We moved the Med Bn from Wackerheim to Mannheim in 1972. Had a great time stationed there. Maj Lawrence Heitzman was the Battalion Commander

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    2. Gomez I was there at the same time 8th med 6/72 to 1/73 Head and A, I remember Heitzman and his green Volvo. What company were you in?

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  34. 590th Trans Co, Apr 86 thru Nov 92, I think it would be nice if all of us that had been there and wish to comment would not post "anonymous". I would like to connect with anyone that was in 590th or even 181BN as a whole during my time there. After I had been there 6 years and had just renlisted they found I had been there too long. I had to leave the BN after 6 great years. I found a loop hole and then went to Spinelli for one year left Mannheim Nov 93.

    SFC Dounseroux
    ndounseroux62@yahoo.com

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  35. Anyone from the 41st - 76 - 78 I was there Beautiful country - lucky enough to drive around and see the country.

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  36. 41at Trans Co.... December 1975-November 1977

    Twas beautiful, wasn't it? My oldest son was born while was there (Heidelberg). Lived in Ludwigshafen and then in Weinheim..........

    Phil Johnson
    psjohn@mncable.net

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  37. Tim Schwartz timmers 221 @aol.comMarch 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    I was in the 590th in 82 and 83 .1st. sgt. Wafe , then 1st sgt. Hicks.I had a very good duty station at Turley. My truck was #140 one of the fastest duece n a halfs. Anyone there at that time i would like to hear from you.

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    1. i was there csm jim wafe it was the best company on turly

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    2. https://www.facebook.com/groups/195171473986/

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    3. my cousin steven austin was in the 590th, i was in the 41 during 81 thru 83, steven left in 82.

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    4. i bet trk 122 in the 41 trans could have gave u a run for your money, and in stile, i had the only truck with both an 8 track player and cassett with a amp and pioner speakers.and i alwas would cut my fuel with 5 to 10% mogas for an extra pep.

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  38. I was stationed at Turley barracks with the 69th transportation co. from nov.1969 to nov.1971. I have lots of great memories of there and the town of Mannheim. I am very sorry to see Turley close up.

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  39. I served as platoon leader in 40th transportation, 1958-60, Turley Barracks. We provided petroleum products to northern Germany and I believe 109th served southern Germany. Great memories and good times during my tour.

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  40. I was stationed at Turley Barracks with the 501st Transportation Co from Dec 1958 thru Feb 1960. I made many trips to Berlin's McNair Barracks moving supplies for the American sector. I shall never forget those wonderful times while station at Mannheim.

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    1. I was with the 69th trans,28thBn. 1958 to Nov 1959. M-52 driver. Many thousand miles drove in Germany and France.

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  41. WOW the 41 and the 51 Trans co. SgtP Bryan A. Jackson there

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  42. My husband ,Tom Fitzgerald ,was stationed at Turley Barracks from '68-'71...
    181st Battalion -51st Transportation Company.
    (fitzliberty@aol.com)

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    1. By chance did Fitz ever return to Turley after 71'?

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  43. Hello,
    I was in the 17th MP Detachemt at Turley from June, 1967 to July, 1969. We managed the MP station. For ahwile, I worked behind the desk in the station. Then, I became the Registrar of Motor Vehicles for the Mannheim area, with an office just outside Sullivan Barracks. I was in the Mannheim/Heidelberg area for a week, as part of a European vacation, one month ago. I took a number of photos around Turley and Sullivan, as well as many other places around the area. I love the place. They were two of the best years of my life; and, I've had a pretty good life in many ways. In Mannheim, I tried to find the old GI bars, or, at least, the locations. They are, of course, all gone, passed like a dream in the night. I did, however, believe that I found the location of one place: the "Trocadero" bar, now a restaurant called "Spaghetti Oper". I went in with my woman friend, had a beer, and talked with the owner. She has been the owner for 22 years. She has never heard of the Trocadero. She said that before she created the restaurant, the place was a noodle factory. Just down the street, I believe, was the location of the Bavaria Bar, which was a hang out for MPs. I used to go regularly to either the "Four Roses" or the "Scotch Kniepe". I could not find the location of these places. As I recall, they were not too far from the area of the old Trocadero. What a dive the Tocadero was, by the way. To this day, there is still a strip joint next door. Amazing, huh? Some things never change. I found a few other places that hadn't changed much in Heidelberg: "Goldener Hecht", "Red Ox", "Scheffel's", and, in Schriesheim, Stralenberg. It is a long way from the Trocadero to Stralenberg or Dilsberg. I would publish some of my photos on this site if I knew how to do it. "Auf Wiedersehen" Bruce

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  44. I was there from 1981 to 1983 I had the time of my life there. i am trying to recall the hospital that was there do anybody remember the name of it

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    1. If you mean the one across from it it was i beleive St joseph Children hospital

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    2. no but i was lucky enough to have the same dr from ft benning, treated me for my headakes, and birthed my daughter. talk about luck.

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  45. how sad, i went to school there i was a mislitary brat and my parents were stationed in Germany to i went to college at the university of maryland university college in Mennghine right across from turley. it was beautiful there and so much fun

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  46. I WAS STATIONED THERE FROM NOV 76-DEC 78 WITH 184TH ORD CO. I LOVED MANNHEIM

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  47. To all that served in Turley barracks here is a head ups maybe you can connect with friends ...
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/195171473986/

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  48. I served with the 501st trans co march 62 to oct 63 .enjoyed the place and the people. like to hear from any others from the 501st donfridrick@comcast.net

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  49. I enjoyed during 1963 and 1964 serving as Plt. Ldr. with the 40th Trans. Co. Great group of skilled, hard working and fun loving soldiers. I enjoyed Mannheim then and during recent trips.

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  50. I was there from 1974-1976 (590th). Some fun times (and many more that I do not remember ...)

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    1. I was there from Dec. 75 to June 78. Please leave your name so we know who you are. Steve Johnson. 2nd platoon, 590th trans.

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  51. I was a platoon leader and later the company commander of the 40th TC during the January, 1963, May, 65 time frame. So many wonderful memories of Turley Barracks. John A. Logan

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  52. Rodney E Lewis (Earl)

    I was a cook in the 598th and 377th Trans Co from 72-74. We later moved to Spinelli Barracks but Turley was always home to me. Lots of good times. Always wanted to go back and see the place too bad its gone now. But it still lives in the 'hashie' parts of my memory...

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  53. I served from late 1963 to Oct 1964.
    Turley was one hell of a complex! For most part it was a Transportation facility for the U.S.military for all of Europe.
    Most important was the unit I was attached to was the "501st'
    better known as "The Red Ball Express" we were the ground component of the much earlier "Berlin Airlift' I recall every week we sent a convoy of trucks ( many times empty) up the Autobahn into Berlin. We were an active part of the "Cold War' effort. We would be stopped at check points and harassed mainly by the Russians then we'd go into barrack at the Berlin Brigade location park our Duce&1/2s and spend next 3 to 5 days drinking beer-maybe tour a bit. Then right back to Turley Barracks. Turley was very unique place during WW2 it was one of the most active German Panzers facility.
    When Gen.Patton attact it the panzers went into the underground park below parade field and would not surrender so Patton had Engineers seal up the entrance then flooded the underground park leaving the Germans in a watery grave. When it snowed the snow falling always melts on parade field.
    The building as I recall were 3 feet thick and it was easy to see where bullet rounds hit the red sand stone. The hall floors were high grade tile in all shower areas the wooden floors in each of the sleeping rooms were red wood and were beautiful. Gun racks were built into the walls for rifles as troops re-entered bld Our recreation rooms had pool table -card tables mags.books etcs.
    Our mess hall was a separate building and the "Club" for entertainment and beer was 5 cents a bottle exchange rate was 5mark 40 penning ( WOW)
    I was company Dispatcher SP4 and would have 100 plus guys all over Europe delivering or picking up from military or Embassy at any given time. I recall many funny and not so funny incidents in my time at Turley but proud to have served!
    I left there to attend OCS Ft.Benning were I got my commission as 2LT.
    Guys like Wheeler from Maine Cosssi from NYC Columus from Ct Lt. Filimore all great guys to serve with

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  54. I was a mail clerk in the 104th from 1966 thru 1969 when we reforged to Ft. Devens Mass. Good times at Turley. Had a bunch of good friends. Wished I'd kept in touch. Had the best first sargent Zell Goodrich. Good days.

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  55. I was at Turley from 1979-1982. 51st trans and HHD. Sorry to see it's gone. Big part of my life. Best part of my life.

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  56. I was stationed at Turley Bks. from 1961 to late 1963 with the 41st Trans. Co.(Our 1st Sgt was Sgt. Craft) Im still trying to find Dave O'Dell my best buddy. Our Company Clerk was living in Orlando Fl. have not see him in approx.30 yrs.(Jessie Higgins). I wish we could have a reunion someplace, for it would be great..Im also sorry to hear that Turley Bks. is closed, because I did have wonderful times there,and working Pt time with the 537th MP Co.If there is anyone out there that would like to talk please contact me..bobd4219@msn.com I would also like to thak the people who put this online for everyone to see and comment on, thank you.. Bob Des Forges..

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  57. Wow, it's good to see so many guys keeping in contact.
    Again I was in 51st Trans. you know the unit was kicking ass and taking names on the Basketball, Football and Baseball from 74 - 77. Anyone that was at the 51st, please contact me - David Murphy (Pee-Lar) back then. :-). I'm in contact with a few guys and women from Turley, Gleen Richardson,- 590th Tom Harold - 51st Rebecka Moore 51st. dlmurphyinc.com (Los Angeles) I have some photos to share of BACK IN THE DAY!

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